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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:34 pm | |
| god it wuld be like type 1 magic o.o i got first i win :3 | |
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Drillwarrior Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 731 Join date : 2011-12-13 Age : 27 Location : Far beyond your reach.
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:28 pm | |
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:49 pm | |
| i jus wana see mst 1 heavy 1 oppression 1 >.> mak the game a LOT mor balancd | |
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L.Lawliet Frozen Throne
Posts : 893 Join date : 2011-11-27
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:04 pm | |
| Well no. . . If MST is x1 then people have to use Dust or 7tools again and oppression x1 isn't that much of a good idea also - the anti meta isn't dead and it's not weak either. I think a lot of the monsters right now needs to go to limit or semi-limit - Rabbit, Grapha, Hyperion, Laggia and etc. Tho I don't think that it will happen, anyway we can't do anything to change that tho d-c said that he'll speak with BLS about "making an optional to play x3 all cards in Traditional", tho that also might not happen ... | |
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:07 pm | |
| thts the idea L i wanta format were ppl use 9-12 traps not 1-5. oppression adds sum flair to deks tht normally cnt standup to metas (my speciality) :3 i can see bunny goin to 1-2 hyper to 1-2 but i thnk snoww wil get hiot be4 grapha laggia doesnt need a hit >.> Dolkka does | |
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L.Lawliet Frozen Throne
Posts : 893 Join date : 2011-11-27
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:13 pm | |
| Well both Laggia and Dolkka needs a hit, but that might not happen I mean we have Naturia Beast and Barkion x3, so I think the bunny will get cut and those 2 might not... also yea snoww is x1... but anyway this is spamming like hell... we'll see next year. | |
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:17 pm | |
| i still want konami to say FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUU and lik demolish any dek tht showed at all :3 | |
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Deckkie Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-12-18 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:15 pm | |
| In the first yugioh series the game was pretty slow and everying was about monster types (not even in the very beginning) Then GX came and with that the archtypes. Konami could now easily make searchers and the game became faster. After that it was 5d's turn. They made easy to summon monsters, synchros. They opened the grave and this made the game significantly faster. Now its Zexals turn. They will make the game even faster than it ever has been. And they are opening the deck as well (tour guide/rescue rabbit)
What I am trying to say is that there is a good chance that they wont hit as much as you think the new banlist will hit. There will probably only come more cards that make incredibly fast and easy monsters.
5D's time is over. | |
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:34 pm | |
| it makes sense but what im saying ina complete reduex :3 | |
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death-coder Icicle Palace
Posts : 291 Join date : 2011-11-30
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:39 pm | |
| - Deckkie wrote:
- In the first yugioh series the game was pretty slow and everying was about monster types (not even in the very beginning)
Then GX came and with that the archtypes. Konami could now easily make searchers and the game became faster. After that it was 5d's turn. They made easy to summon monsters, synchros. They opened the grave and this made the game significantly faster. Now its Zexals turn. They will make the game even faster than it ever has been. And they are opening the deck as well (tour guide/rescue rabbit)
What I am trying to say is that there is a good chance that they wont hit as much as you think the new banlist will hit. There will probably only come more cards that make incredibly fast and easy monsters.
5D's time is over. bro the prob is that i will totally quit ygo at march if current banlist is not fixed and you know why the game is faster ? because the old game cards which ARE faster than the new ones and which you do not seem to calculate are all banned ... bring pot of greed and graceful charity , yata garasu and envoy of the end back and ban ALL rabbits tours and xyz's and u will see how fast the game goes | |
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Deckkie Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-12-18 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:57 pm | |
| Not saying that it wont hit anything, but prob just not that hard. I do dare to say though that they wont destroy every deck and buff plants into some devine deck. And 1mst 1 heavy would be best imo. In this format its all monster monster monster, gate of the dark world, monster monster monster. | |
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death-coder Icicle Palace
Posts : 291 Join date : 2011-11-30
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:03 pm | |
| hard ? i tried to contain myself as soft as possible to give fair yet competitive adv to all possible decks in ygo ... if the suggestions i said were hard you should read what i had thought for real of this banlist >_> ... anyway i thought about it closer and i will make a change tour at 1 grapha banned hyperion at 1 kristya at 1 and JD back at 2 ...
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:21 pm | |
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Deckkie Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-12-18 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:21 pm | |
| allure of darkness at 3 > Dark op, way to easy to stabalise deck heavy banned > not my pref. herp derp 4 traps down into win trunade at 1 mst at 1 cold wave at 1 malicious at 3 dark armed at 2 honest at 2 > Honest destroys every, but I mean every monster without real danger (eff from hand makes it such a incredible strong card) kalut at 2 lonefire at 2 > this dandy at 2 > with this (will be continued) oppression at 1 tengu at 2 > still alot with the plant changes e-tele at 2 ccv at 1 cat at 1 bunny at 1 > death to xyz rabbit, although I personally wouldnt mind that. darksoul at 1 > death to X-saber formula at 2 > and this, so we continue :p libra at 2 > and this! trish banned treeborn at 1 > Dont see why? substitoad at 3 mass driver still banned 8DDD solemn warning at 3 laggia at 1 grapha banned or at 1 > death to DW black luster back to banned chaos sorc at 2 or at 1 > no need imo (not that strong monster anymore) veiler at 2 or at 1 burial from a different dimension at 2 vayu at 2 bestiari at 2 raigeki at 1 monster reborn banned brain control at 1 > say whut? sangan banned tour guide at 2 goblin zombie at 2 zombie master at 1 final countdown at 1 exodia's head banned god cards illegal debris still at 1 plant niggers 8D > what honor hyperion at 1 or banned > death to agents poa at 2 > trolololol conclusion. Plants: no words to deiscribe how strong and consistent agent, DW, X-saber, rabbit are Death Zombies, Blackwing hit pertty hard. | |
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death-coder Icicle Palace
Posts : 291 Join date : 2011-11-30
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:49 pm | |
| ye but all in all they balance each other ... i gave allure at 3 to make dark decks stable again and i gave stability to plants again with oppression to counter them and THATS why i banned heavy, for plants not to be invincible, so i offered an even more flexible solution with cold wave ... since dark go OP with honest at 2 light go OP so they balance each other and DEATH
to rabbit gayness, to agent fagness, to dw shitness, do x-saber homoness ...
zombies are fine, mezuki isnt at 2 at least even if burial and allure hit pretty hard xD ... anyway they ALL balance each other ..
i made this banlist out of mathematical calculations ... and it resulted in perfect balance of an entire format, to give chance to ALL decks to be usable ... | |
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Deckkie Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-12-18 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:03 pm | |
| I can see that all decks get nerfed, and with this it should creat balance, but stuff like BW and Chaos would crush rabbit, DW, Agents and rabbits, so they would be dead
And plants are still very strong, I agree that Trish and 2 tengu would hurt them, but 2 dandy, farmula, lonefire and librarian would just make ++++++++++++ And double poa is so strong, as if they wouldnt have enough + yet. No deck can use poa like plants can.
Plants is still a top 3 meta deck, and with this every tournament would be 90% plant. | |
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:08 pm | |
| my list is... hyp to 1, grapha 2 snoww 1, rabbit 2, laggia/dolkka @1-2, heavy banned, maybe bring bak goat control | |
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Deckkie Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-12-18 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:16 pm | |
| After feeding the troll for a while :p I would say limit the searchers not the boss monsters. | |
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Namujess Freshman
Posts : 896 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 28 Location : canada~
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:22 pm | |
| i say destroy botth! > | |
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Deckkie Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-12-18 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:26 pm | |
| Death to the meta!! xD if it wasnt as expansive I would probably like this meta | |
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Drillwarrior Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 731 Join date : 2011-12-13 Age : 27 Location : Far beyond your reach.
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:23 pm | |
| *Expensive.
And I like this format even if it is (no I do NOT have lots of money XD ) | |
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Reginanos Snowstorm Peak
Posts : 226 Join date : 2011-12-05 Age : 26 Location : In my chair
| Subject: Re: best decks of this format ? Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:33 am | |
| - death-coder wrote:
- hard ? i tried to contain myself as soft as possible to give fair yet competitive adv to all possible decks in ygo ... if the suggestions i said were hard you should read what i had thought for real of this banlist >_> ... anyway i thought about it closer and i will make a change
tour at 1 grapha banned hyperion at 1 kristya at 1 and JD back at 2 ...
better So many of these I consider wrong. Tour Guide at 1: Completely Understandable, this thing is just annoying. Grapha Banned: WHAT. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Grapha or Dark World at all, but there's no reason to ban it. To ban it would mean it COMPLETELY over-centralizes the metagame, which it doesn't do by a long-shot. Hyperion at 1: This is a bit better than your Grapha statement, but I think we should put Hyperion at 2 and Mystery - Earth at 2, you would be surprised how much smaller of a chance your opponent gets Hyperion out is. Kristya at 1: There's no reason for this, Kristya is just fine at 2, as if many people play it anyways. JD at 2: Forget just putting back at 2. I SAY WE KILL THE JUDGEMENT DRAGON FOREVER!!!!! In the end, your statements just tell me that you have problems with these cards. There's no reason to have these problems, unless your deck needs changing that is... | |
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